BS: Another terms that's used is 'edutainment'. What does that mean to you.
DB: I think it's a horrible term but I think it's trying to educate people through in an entertaining way. If people come in - if people are coming and enjoying themselves - I think if you get in there and you enjoying yourself - I think any situation you're in, even if you go to a course and it's the worst course you've ever been to you will get something from it, even if it's how not to do a course in the future. You'll always learn something. So I think if people are actually having fun they'll, will actually tend to get more involved in things and then - you know then get because they're getting more involved in things they'll actually - perhaps they're more open to the what people are actually trying to put across in a place like this, you know. So if you're enjoying yourself you're much more likely to - get involved in something. Say if you go to a film and you're enjoying it, you're more likely to pick up on the dialogue in films. If you find it's boring you, you sort of you'll let it sort of float over the top of you quite a lot.