BS: And how did you become involved with Techniquest?
DB: I came down to Techniquest - I used to bring the children here a lot when I was when, the old building when they were younger. Um - and my wife, my ex-wife at the time was a teacher, and she brought her school group down and - when I went into the toilets there was a sign up saying "Wanted. People over 40 - to, work as a helper." So, I just applied. And, because at that time I was only working part time so, I thought well, if I did one or two days a week as a helper it would, make up for the 3 or 4 days I was working in the other job. So that's what I did.