BS: Your present job that you're doing, how did how did you get that?
DB: Well I started as a helper and I started off doing 1 or 2 days and what I was intending doing was doing, some supply teaching and some work as a helper. but unfortunate- what was happening was every day they offered me supply work, I'd already booked down as a day as a helper. So what they did then is I started working more and more days as a helper until I was virtually full time. I was working 5 or 6 days a week. And then, a job came up in the September after we moved into this building which was to, look after the Planetarium and do the Kids' programme. So I applied for that and got that. And then the person who was doing my job left I applied for that one and got that one. So, it's sort of been a progression through, people leaving. And I didn't assassinate them or anything like that, they just left.