BS: You mention yourself actually that you've known about Techniquest for a long time. Is that because you lived in Cardiff?
JC: I lived about 12 miles out of Cardiff. And we came - we were in Cardiff Christmasish one year and it was what was the old gasworks showroom and we sort of peered in through the window at this place that looked a bit odd and somebody actually came out and said "you do know you can come in if you want" and we went in, discovered it by chance really. I think we were probably Christmas shopping or something. My parents probably wanted something that would stop us being painful, is probably a good word ((laughs)).