ER So I was wondering if the game show might be more popular, more entertaining
CW Yeah
ER I mean in terms of you've talked before about constraint and freedom and I'm quite interested in that.
CW It's very difficult, it's very difficult to know because some things are different, I mean - in like, "Body Inside out" again a show about, all about biology - of the human body. And that uses, I mean there are, there are elements of quiz in that, in certain aspects of it. There's demonstrations, there's video, you know, kids don't go out the show sort of, like, all wound, all wound up, but they, you know, more go out sort of pondering on things you know. But, but it's kind of like valid in different ways I think for different things really. You know, I think it depends what you're, what you're trying to, cover. I mean this Investigate game show that we did a few weeks ago, I mean that's one that we use when they're - it's not all, all, all of them, but a lot of children are in their final year primary school and they're coming up to their sort of end of year exams and, and basically teachers love it because we cover, we dip into lots of different things and, they're, you know, if they're going to sit, not that we do it entirely for these tests but basically, if they're going to sit - read these papers then what they need to do is they need to have these things quickly come into the forefront of their mind. And in the show what they have to do, is, quickly sort of get them up. So, that's, you know, that's valid in that way. I think it's just different things. I mean, we know, we soon know if something isn't working because people don't book, you know, and then it gets wiped out the programme [so, you know.]