ER And do you find that the way they move between exhibits, for example, that they're in groups?
CW I think it varies really. Yeah, I think, I think, kids tend, tend to be, with their friends, mostly, but, you know, you get your loners as well. I mean it's nice that you can, you know, they can do what they feel happy with, really. I don't particularly like it sometimes school groups come and they, I mean I think with 5-6 year olds it's fair enough to take them round in a little group but I think, sometimes you get groups of 9-10 year olds and they, you know, they all get taken round with an adult and that, I feel that's a shame really, I think it's, they're old enough that they don't need to be - quite so looked after. And, I think some of them you need to, you need to have time just to play around with and you get a lot more out of it if you're not always being told "Come on, we've got to move to the next thing," you know. So, so I think you need a certain amount of freedom.
ER. I suppose something about teachers maybe adapting=
CW [Yeah, that's it if you're not familiar with the place, yeah, that's right]
ER [from school to a leisure setting.]
CW And feeling you know, responsible for, for the group and that sort of thing.