BS: What computer packages do you use?
DS: Because we're Mac-based we were using Vector Works which is - it's ok, it's it's very reasonable - for the price, what you can do with it but I was a bit limited. So we've now moved onto (Cobalt) which is the other end of the kind of CAD market and much more advanced and sort of comparable to AutoCAD which is the standard engineering package for PC. But because we're Mac-based we (use Cobalt) they don't do it for Macs, at the moment. Um, so yeah, Cobalt is the main ( ). The nice thing about that, once you've done a 3d model you literally just tell it "I want a view of that side that side that side" and it'll do it and dimension it. Then if you make a change it automatically changes the 2d engineering drawings. Just 10 times better.