ER: What was all that about, the monkey on the skateboard? What were they doing there?
El: It was like - it's like all showing the pushing - pushes and pulls=
VI & Ch: [yeah, yeah]
El: =but we don't - we didn't need to um have=
Vi: Ah! (missing something)
El: yeah, yeah, Ger- um not Geraint, Gary um showed us [about pushes and pulls]=
Vi: [You're missing something gu::ys]=
El: =and um
Ch: Who's Gary?
ER: Gary, the clown?
Ch: oh yeah, the clown.
El: And um - um