ER: Did you find at Techniquest . . . you were learning something from all the toys there or did you think some were just for fun and some were for learning?
C: [yeah. Some were for]=
D: [Yeah some of them]
J: [yeah - yeah]
C: =learning all of them I thought.
ER: You thought all for learning did you?
C: ((nods slightly))
D: I -
ER: What did you think Derek?
((tape cuts off))