BS: And do you think your view of science corresponds with Techniquest's?
DB: I think in some ways it does but some ways, some things that I see would be I think that there might be a bias towards the importance they put on certain areas, because I tend to put a lot of importance on the sort of um environment and sustainability side whereas Techniquest is not quite so at the moment quite so interested there'll go more for - well the thing that they're doing at the moment is music and all these sorts of things and the interrelation between music and well - between science and the arts, they're trying to link up science and the arts as well through music and how musical instruments and things work. So I think in some ways, I think the view is similar, but I think the emphasis maybe in different particular areas. Everybody's got their own particular areas. Now some people are very interested in DNA, we'll say, so DNA is really really important. Other people that are interested in music, so music is very important. But whatever area it is, which ever bit they're working is always the most important.