BM: Do you think that when you do the things in the Hub, the different exhibits, do you have a different style, as it were, getting the wow factor out of those compared to say the exhibits on the floor.
HF: Yeah. The Hub I think has less of a wow factor about it. It is - the exhibits tend to be quite quick and dirty in there. They're they're not - you know, they're not built to the same standard, as the other exhibits because they're not intended to be out there all the time, you know, they might take a hammering for 6 week but at least then you're taking them back off the floor and they can be fixed you know. Or you can, you know, do something else. It's - the Hub is just yeah, it doesn't have such a wow factor. Try to. I mean, you know as you've been involved with some of the It's electric things. Being able to get things like a Jacob's Ladder in there is great because that will create you know "Wah that's cool" you know ((sound effect)) you know. Actually seeing real lightning in an exhibition is going to be good. So you know but this is the first for - first set of Hub exhibits I've been involved with building. So I don't, you know, it's difficult to say really. So yeah.