BM: As a bit of a dream question, is there a particular thing you would like to put on in the Hub or see as an exhibit that you think would be really good.
HF: What my dream...
BM: Your dream exhibit or your dream hub or your dream whatever.
HF: Gosh. No. Not at the moment. There isn't, I don't have a grand scheme of things I like to see how things crop up and develop over time. I would like to see the hub be used more - supposed to be a bit more like a centre for discussion and debate, which sort of stems back to what science centres are trying to do for the future and I would like to see, I would like to see the hub or Techniquest being used - to facilitate citizenship.
I think we need to get away from the idea that science is great, if you come to Techniquest you'll engage it with it because it's fun and you'll go thinking isn't science marvellous. That's not what, what I think science centres should be about. Science centres should be about empowering somebody so that they can be an active citizen. So they can take part in the debate sensibly so that they, you know, and they know what they're voting for when they vote for it and they know what they're protesting against when they protest against it or they know what they're supporting when they support it. And it would be great to see - in the Hub, something that would mean people could say, you know, from the computers that are in there they could email their local MP and say "I'm sitting in an exhibition about waste", you know, "disposal and apparently you're going to put up an incinerator on my back yard. I don't want it" you know. And to be able to write a coherent thing or send off a fax or draw a picture or do something so that they can actually engage and be an active citizen. So that - might be a bit pie in the sky but that's I think would be something I'd like to see.