BS: You said some shows missed their target, what do you mean by that.
JC: Probably - I would say the majority of those are ones that are for public audiences. Um where we have top have an age limit, or an age restriction because they're perhaps a bit high level. And the ones that involve fewer sort of - interesting demonstrations. It's difficult to specify - some of them just don't seem to have a spark they don't have something that really engages the audience. Possibly that's the topics and - we struggled in the summer with because it was a genes topic which is ever so hard for younger children. So sometimes the topic affects it as well.