BS: How about the exhibition hall space? How would you describe that space?
JC: Noisy. ((pause)) it depends on the group you put in it. If you get - one of the best things for me is - and I've seen it loads of times is the Bernoulli Blower when you go in. And we had a toddler day yesterday and turned round and there was a small child stood under the balloon waving his arms. And it was - getting and it was just really good to watch him enjoying it that much. So when you've got an audience that's never been there before and you get that sort of "wow" reaction. That's really good. I think if you've got a group that's been there before, occasionally secondary school groups that, they see it, they've been before they see it as too young for them - then it sort of takes on a different atmosphere and it's - a more negative feeling. It - that's not always a common - but that's sort of a very specific age group. Generally it's got a sort of enthusiastic sort of buzz. Sort of, if you wander round you can hear people sort of "wow, wow that's really cool." As I say, especially when you see the, see the younger children particularly - that really see something new. That's great.
Sometimes, I think the colours, put people off. You'll watch, particularly families with older children who look at it and say "oh no, that's for kids." Or adults on their own - they see that it - looks too brightly coloured, it looks young it looks - perhaps a bit like a crèche and they just, don't want to go in, they don't want to find out about anything because they don't like the appearance.