BS: You particularly mentioned groups. Do you see yourself as working with groups as opposed to individuals.
ER: Well I mentioned family groups. So we don't tend to have individuals walking in through the door. We do on occasion. But they tend to be in family units. You occasionally have - children who are dropped off in the forecourt - without a parent, which can be very difficult, particularly if they're quite young. Because we don't really like having them come in when they're unsupervised. On the other hand, if their parents have already driven off, then it's better that they're here than walking around the bay and the docks area. But it does tend to be groups. And usually you'll find that if they're going into any of the shows - they will go in as a group rather than, sometimes you'll split up a family. One part of the family will want to go to the planetarium, the other one might want to go to the workshop. So they might do that at the same time and then meet back at the end. But they do tend to be going in, in pairs or in groups to the programme areas. So, I do think of them as - as groups - be they a group of 2 or 3, or a group of 30 or 40. Because you - the interaction has to be with every member of that family or with every member of the birthday party rather than - just - the individuals. When you're presenting to schools - you have to - I mean - you're mainly presenting to the children. The teachers, obviously, have to get some out of it as well but the teachers will get out what they can see the children are getting out of the, the presentation. When you're working with families you have to entertain the parents and the grandparents as well as the children. Because you want them all to want to come back again. So, I do see it as working with groups.