BS Initially when we came we thought there were two teams - the exhibits team and the educational teams but it also seems the public programmes team as well. How do they fit in?
SB: Well that is education. Officially we're all called education, but in the old days that used to be public programmes and schools' used to be called education and you will find people still use that term for for our schools people. But we are, schools, they are public programmes and combined the two of us are now, because we are we're all education really but it's a bit of a - you've picked up on one of those funny sorts of things. The thing is um we started first. Schools programmes started first. When I worked in the old Techniquest we didn't have a public programmes at all. At the weekends we didn't have any shows. So we evolved first. And then, when we went to the new building we started doing some of the schools' shows at the weekend just to see. And that was the way we started and then we had a public programmes manager and it all came from that. And we realised straight away we had to have different programmes. So I think that's why we are called education and they sort of are called public programmes and, it should all be one, schools and public programmes as part of education.
I don't feel that there is enough - that we work enough together. I think we work quite separately. It's just the way that we - are the way that we are in the building, that we're not in the same office space. We don't see them, they don't see us. I'd like to think we all knew what each other was doing but we probably don't. If we're brainstorming for something we do like to try and involve - you know, have cross-over. Because there's a lot of - expertise and ideas in both teams that can be used for either. I think it's something we, we should work towards.