BS: And would you say there's a difference in the types of shows that are produced for public programmes.
SB: yes, definitely.
BS: In what way?
SB: Oh well, they're not limited to the national curriculum for a start. They can do anything that's interesting, you know. They, they can really go for the wow, much more than we can. And the quirky and "OH WHY DID THAT HAPPEN. That's really bizarre" you know. They they can really have um - much more freedom - but I think it's harder because they've got such a mixture in the audience that they've got to cater for whereas we know exactly who's in our audience. Well, still going to be a bit of a range but, yeah, very very different. Different - customers, if you like. I just don't know what it would be like to do a- I've never done a public programmes um show. Perhaps it would do me good but I think it would be a bit scary ((laughs)). It's, yeah I think it is different but there are some demos and parts of the show that you think "Oh that's nice. Oh I'd love to do that for schools." So you can sort of - use some of the ideas. But of course we have to be careful because if a school came down and saw the same thing, that they'd seen with their granny at the weekend, that would be they might be a bit disappointed so it is quite good to keep things separated in that way.?