BS: OK. Thank you. . . . how would you describe your approach to exhibit design?
DS: ((long pause)) It depends sometimes on, on where the, the initial idea's coming from. We get some projects which are very well defined already, because - either the client knows exactly what they want or, say Heath's spent a long time, developing the concept and basically says "look this is how roughly what's going happen." And in those cases then you're simply looking at - the specification that you've been given and saying "OK how're going to do that", how, how you know "How's the visitor - going to approach that" and how fun is it how educational is it, all those kinds of questions. But sometimes, like with the summer theme, we just have a theme, so this year it was electricity. And often there's been a lot of background work done - because there's often various things that different people in the organisation may have seen elsewhere or have an idea for or something and, feed in. But otherwise we'll just kind of try and work out - come up with some ideas anyway and and progress them. Do you want to know more about technically how that works?