BS: So does it depend then on who is doing it?
DS: It depends quite a lot on who - because there are other people in the workshop who don't like working like - they'd much prefer if they had a drawing with all the dimensions on and they'll just make that for you. But then there's some people who like thinking and like doing the - kind of - that sort of kind of - part of it. So yeah, it's it's quite a unique working environment I think in terms of - um - the mix of people - the skills -