BS: What about the wider Cardiff community and the Welsh community.
TS: Oh (grief). I [think that]=
BS: [Two questions]
TS: =well certainly - I think for primary schools we are a major science resource. Years ago when - education departments around here had advisory teachers and science centres then there was quite a lot that was actively on for science in primary schools. As I understand it that kind of activity scarcely exists anymore. Techniquest is seen by primary schools certainly as a place that they can go to for in service courses and so we put those on. That is - a huge support for the science that they do in school. Both in terms of visits and the outreach that we can provide. The advice that we can provide over the telephone. And so that I think that we are quite important in that - I would imagine particularly to schools that are easy to get to from here.
But if you - we have 70,000 school kids here a year, something like that. And a large proportion of those are primary schools. And are large proportion of those are from South Wales. They do come from Gloucester and Cheltenham, Bristol and uh perhaps even further afield. But we are quite an important resource for primary schools. Not so much for secondary schools. But then secondary schools have got expert scientific teachers and that's what the primary schools generally speaking are not. They're usually people who did no more science than GCSE did very little of it when they trained as a teacher and feel - how shall I say it - they feel uncomfortable I think when they have to teach science. They do it, because, they have to, but I think they look for any support that they can find and they find it here. And so that - it works both ways it means that we get the visitors and they get support. And so that I think that we are well matched to one another. Does that sound sensible?
BS: yep.
TS: I mean that's my way of looking at it. And it is so important to us. Because we are a tourist attraction as well. I think we have something of the order of a hundred a hundred and ten thousand tourist visitors a year. By tourist, they might come from here they come from, from elsewhere and I'm sure that that is one of the effects of our schools programme. That is that the kids go home, they enjoyed this place and they badger their parents and their grandparents and so on to bring them here again.