BS: Do you think that Techniquest has a role to play within the local community?
TS: The immediate local community?
BS: yes.
TS: That is a desperately difficult question. We don't manage to attract much of the local community. We - I certainly, and I think a lot of my colleagues - this is a poor sentence but I think you'll be able to take it apart and understand more or less what it's about. I use local schools as - a resource for the MSc course. That is that a lot of our presenting science we do as an outreach activity to the local primary schools. By local I mean first of all the ones that you can get to on foot and then the ones that you can get to easily in a car. That is that you can get there for 9:30 in the morning and you can be back for lunch. And we aim mainly at schools that don't usually come here - and that generally means schools that are in fairly disadvantaged areas where the parents can't be persuaded to part with however many pounds in order to subsidise a visit here. And so that, if you like is my little bit for the local community. I know what we have had programmes in the past to offer free admission to people who live within Butetown and whatever. I don't know how successful it was. But when you come in here you don't generally find a lot of Somali families or lot of West Indian families or - any of the others, Pakistani families who are in fact in - I think they're in the majority in many of the - little bits of Butetown and Grangetown and so on. But I don't think we do provide - any kind of huge resource for them.