BS: We've made a bit of a false divide between science and education. So I wondered if we could talk a little bit about science. To begin with what your personal understanding of what science is.
AS: So nothing hard then. ((laughs)) My belief of what science is? Gosh that's really hard. Um - what definition of science. I suppose - for me science is, is - looking to understand the way the world works. Is that what you mean? Like a definition?
BS: yeah. What do you think science is?
AS: That's hard - yeah - looking into the ways the world works.