BS: One of the things you were saying there is that children have been introduced to science in a different way to what they have in the past.
AS: I don't know because I don't remember doing science at primary school. I think we did nature or something. Whatever that was. And - rubbing trees and things. But I don't remember doing science and I certainly wouldn't - I don't think I came across - I don't know because it's so long ago but you know just the way that we present science here is just so much more understandable. So I feel that - that looking at key stage 2, so 7 to 11 year olds science, and, starting with key stage 1 moving up through key stage 2 3 and 4. Are you alright with key stages? Or do you want me to say it for the benefit of the - I know you know but ((laughs))
BS: No. I think we've got enough things so that