And, but what I'm trying to say is that I think that Techniquest does science - probably at the moment in quite a factual way. ((pause)) Rather than looking - something that we're starting to do, certainly with post 16 audiences and - largely with post 16 audiences - I'm talking largely about schools here as well but I will at some point talk about public as well - is look at the issues involved. I think that's an important way that we should be looking as well. Because I think there's been a study by Planet Science, I don't know if you've seen it. Do you know Planet Science?
BS: No.
AS: Shall I tell you? It's the old Science Year. So Science Year ran in, I think it's 2000 in England and when it finished they changed the name of it and they continued it. So the one in Wales stopped after a year and a bit but the one in England has continued and it's now called Planet Science and they've just done a study that's just out now where they looked at the way that students viewed the curriculum. And what they said was, one of the reasons that some of them are turned off by science is that it seems to be very black and white. So there's no questioning the laws of physics, or whatever. And of the subjects that they did - so physics chemistry and biology, the one that most of them enjoyed the most was biology because there seemed to be some room for manoeuvre so you know you could actually question what was happening and have your own point of view. And I think that's an important part of science I mentioned that earlier because, you know, it's not value free and I think to - if you don't - if you don't discuss that I think you're only seeing part of the picture.