BS: In terms of you said that science is about values though sometimes it is presented about not being about values do you think you could apply that in any way to things produced in Techniquest. Would try to produce science exhibits that appeal to certain groups or not? Or would you try to keep them objective or neutral.
AS: I don't know. I think probably they are quite neutral because I don't think there's any issues discussed in anything. ... quickly thinking about all the exhibits I don't think even the biology ones I don't think there's any sort of thing that someone might read and think "Oh actually I don't agree with that" or you know. I think they're all quite - about what I was saying before about this sort of black and white type thing of, you know this is so-and-so's law and this is the way it works. But I'm not responsible for the exhibits so I'm not sure whether that is a definite you know like a definite way of, of approaching everything or whether it just happens because for example I think - again it's best to ask Darren this about this but I think because they're just easier to do as interactive exhibits. So, you know.