BS: When we were doing some research we saw a clip from WISE when you're talking about the challenge of trying to make things informative but entertaining at the same time. Does that cause any particular tensions or how does the relationship work?
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AS: I suppose - there's more - as I said earlier sorry I keep probably going on about it. There's - more strictures in a school show because of the national curriculum or the A-level syllabus than there are in the public shows. So there's really nothing that stops us doing, you know, whatever - presenting in any - any way we want for the public.