BS: What about the notion of interactivity how does that fit in?
AS: in terms of the question you asked me just now?
BS: In terms of your approach and your philosophy of education.
AS: Hmmm.
BS: Where would you see interactivity as pertaining to that?
AS: I just- I mean there's that old I'm not going to quote there's that old thing that you know if you do something then really - understand it you know. So there's a quite a long- well it's not a long quote but I'm not going to say it because it's quite clichéd. Do you know the one I mean?
BS: yeah.