BM: Do you think as well, do you regard some parts of Techniquest as more and this is in quotes as more educational than other parts?
HF: Um - yes. I would put - yeah - it's a difficult one. If you think, if you're thinking education in the broadest sense, for everybody then I would say - well actually - I would say the lab is the most educational side, of things that we do. Even if you go into there for a public workshop, it has that feeling of you're back at school, you're in a lab and - tends to be set things that you have to do and you're, if it's a make and take activity or something you will have certain things that you've got to achieve by the time you've finished, in that workshop. So in the Science Theatre that again, is a bit more passive, but it's still got hands-on, it's still got an interactive element to it. The planetarium is a bit more, is again, tends to be a bit passive but you can ask questions at the end which gives it a bit more of a 2 way approach. But that you don't have - you don't have to fill anything in, you don't you know, you don't have to do things. And the Exhibition floor is obviously - it's - educational in the sense that it's um - what's the word - it's engaging and it's hands-on - but it's - it doesn't have that perception of being educational if you think about trad- what you mean by traditional educational thinking.