BS: . . . I was wondering the role that the course that you've taken here, the Science Communication course, how - really the role that that's played in your understanding of science and science centres.
ER: I think it helped me actually clarify it in my own mind. think I always believed it. But I - didn't really think much about it. It made me think more about - what I believed science was and about motivational aspects and about different ways of learning. Because I think everybody - believes when they're in school that - you know if you're not - in a classroom taking notes then you're not really learning. And I think that's a - something that a lot of people feel. But it's not a good thing to feel because there are lots of different ways and you - and thinking back - I can clearly remember my dad talking about key stones on bridges in the original Techniquest. And that word and that idea stayed with me. So, there are other ways of learning. It's not just - sitting down and learning it from a book or from a teacher or from a lecture so. I think that - helped me to - understand that motivation and - um - enjoying things - puts you in a better frame of mind. I think I always believed that science was about asking questions. I was always a why child. And so - it has, it has helped me - clarify my ideas. And it's also - I think if I hadn't done the course if I'd - done a PGCE I would still have a lot of the same beliefs and - that I have now. But I'd probably feel in an isolated world ((laughs)). Because - when I was going for the PGCE I know it wasn't me I knew it wasn't right for me and when I saw this course I knew it was right for me. And so - if I'd done the PGCE maybe ended up teaching or maybe even ended up somehow in the science communication field, but not necessarily as directly related as I am now. One of the things I was seriously looking into was was working in a field studies centre. I think I would feel more isolated in that, I'm the only one that feels like this. Whereas the course helps you realise that there's a lot of people just as mad as you are out there. And - that's good.