BS: Just one more general question. This concept of performing science, telling stories to teach about science, is that quite a new concept or where do you think it came from?
SB: Well it it sort of - comes from - teaching ((laughs)). There's this idea of are we teachers or are we performers. And, I don't think we're either, we're a bit in between. I don't know. If you come - the Techniquest style comes from - um - what's it called - the (eye) - the Royal Institution in London at the Christmas lecture - kind of things, I think. That sort of - I remember as a child watching those on the telly. Um I think that that's the sort of - the starting point. Um - I don't know. It's just just a style. I think it's got its own place. I think children have got to play around with things themselves and make circuits themselves and - you know do pushes and pulls themselves to think about them. But it's just sort of - another another part of the jigsaw puzzle.