BS: Could you perhaps just explain a little bit more about what you did at university.
DS: My course title was "Innovation in engineering Design." Which was essentially mechanical engineering with some electronics. There is a - problem - especially in Britain in terms of people don't really know what engineers do. ((laughs) And it's not helped by the fact that - they do such diverse - load of stuff as - my job probably relates quite well to - what I did in my degree but it's a lot about problem solving. It's - a bit about visualisation, it's a bit about even maths and physics and - stuff like that. A bit about management. A bit about analysis. It's kind of - a very complex subject and I think that's why it's difficult to explain to other people and so it's difficult for the public to understand what engineering's about as well.