BD In phase 3 then did you scrap everything that was there before and start afresh?
HW
So, then when we were looking for, going from phase 2 to phase 3, I mean, phase 2 I suppose we, because phase 1 had had lots of different rooms in it we produced smaller enclaves within the main space of phase 2. So that was a sort of legacy from phase 1 to phase 2. But going from phase 2 to phase 3 - I would look at, say a popular exhibit like the "Ducking Kaleidoscope" which is not here, now, I'd think "Ooh that's good but how would I take it further? Great, we'll have a mirror maze." So, we did that. Looking at each exhibit, that was successful, and why it was successful, and then thinking well how do I do this on a grander scale? How do I do something a bit more than that? So, there were things like that added in there, which gave me, I'm always very keen on having a few in the bank a few that I know are going to come out right and be OK and then I can be much more relaxed about being more, risky and exploratory about what I'm doing.