BM: We've been told by quite a few people the difference between physical interactivity and computer interactives, some people saying for example that computers aren't interactive. We're interested in your take on that.
TS: The interactivity offered by computer..
BM: vis-à-vis
TS: So a virtual exhibit so to speak?
BM: Yes.
TS: As compared with the kinds of real things that we have. ((pause)). I think there is virtual reality and virtual reality in terms of amount of depth. Most - computer exhibits are fairly 2 dimensional. That is that you - see things, they might be things they might-they're more often than not things with text. This is a much deeper question than I would want to attempt to answer as quickly as this.
BM: Feel free to take as long as you want.
TS: Well - we use computers here. We do get the computers to do things for you. That is they will draw things if you want to draw things. Or they will make something - according to your instructions. That is, in 2 dimensions that is, you can build a tree you can tell how - big the leaves have got to be and how long the trunk and how many branches on the - branches and things like that then push a button and it will build it for you. And that is really I suppose fairly interactive. We've got other things like that.
They are - diverting in my view, they are nice. Some people will say they are very good exhibits. If I were faced with 150 of them I think I would tire quite soon. So that I think that there is - a variability within real exhibits - which it might be difficult to approach with things that simply appeared on the screen.
However if you had virtual reality at a much more subtle level then I wouldn't know how good you could do with that. That is, people with goggles and earphones and things like that and driving an airplane. You know, that kind of virtual reality I'm sure that that is - more subtle than the kinds of things that, that we have. You might be able to furnish an entire gallery with things like that.